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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1101
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:32 am:       

Hey,

I've got a dwarf gourami in a 25 gallon tank and he's got this sore type thing right behind his stomach on the bottom of his body. He acts fine, eating, swimming, no clamped fins or red gills or weird scales, but the sore looks like it's just down to the muscle almost and the skin is gone. It's like the scales aren't there, and it white tissue underneath, but it's red all ariund it. The rest of the fish are fine, so it's not infectious I assume.

The water's fine, 0/0/~15, and i'm about to do a water change, but is there anything I can do to help him?
I think it might be from him trying to eat the plastic plants and it could be his anal area and the plastic coming out is not a good thing. He also tries to eat snail shells which could have a similar effect.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8264
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:38 am:       

doubt that it is his eating anything. more likely an injury of some sort.

water changes, water changes, water changes. best thing to do is keep the water in pristine state until he heals--or shows other signs of what the root of the problem is.
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dan
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Username: dan

Post Number: 6590
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:28 pm:       

i'd consider adding either one percent salt or Melafix per directions to the water to prevent infection and loss of body fluids through osmotic pressure loss. beyond that, as sully says, keep the water pristine through water changes and your fish will likely be just fine. all healthy fish have an inherant resistance to most diseases and an ability to heal on their own.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8269
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 04:16 pm:       

salt is good idea. melafix certainly can't hurt.
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dan
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Username: dan

Post Number: 6593
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 04:34 pm:       

melafix certainly can't hurt i keep reading anecdotal posts in other forums giving this stuff credit for successful treatment of 'some' infections. soooo, i figure yah, it can't hurt.

along the same lines i've read several articles by the Discus guru, J. Watley on his use of fresh pressed garlic in his foods to both cure and stave off parasites .. including hex. hmmmm. i figure he certainly can't be wrong, huh?
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1106
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 05:37 pm:       

Well I'll try water changes everyother day for a while, if it doesn't start clearing up I'll get some melafix.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8272
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 06:21 pm:       

the salt was a really good idea.
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1107
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 07:57 pm:       

yeah yeah, the salt.

I'll see what I can do. That wouldn't be regular table salt would it?

Seriously. I can never remember which is the good kind, aquarium salt or like the marine salt. And how would the salt affect the tetras and cories in there with it. I've gotta go to petsmart anyway since the ligth in my 10 broke.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8278
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 08:46 pm:       

table salt would be just fine.
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1110
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 08:48 pm:       

whoa really? I thought table salt=evil? But then again, putting salt on stuff in your mouth is a good for stuff like that.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8280
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 08:50 pm:       

teach you to think--lol.

it will be just fine. there is a myth that the iodine level in table salt would do the fish in--yep a myth.
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1111
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 08:58 pm:       

so one percent salt to my water volume of 25 gallons is... 1 quart? That seems a little much.
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rob
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Username: rob

Post Number: 271
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 04:41 am:       

Question: Would you describe this 'sore' as looking somewhat like a blood blister exept internal? umm...under the surface of the skin?

Small thin sore with resembleance to some sort of bruise??

I dono how to word it really but i had the same thing on one of my gouramis.
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dan
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Username: dan

Post Number: 6594
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 06:29 am:       

so one percent salt to my water volume of 25 gallons is... 1 quart? does seem like alot .. do this instead. i'll check on that 1 perecent recommendation again.

Add 1 Teaspoon of salt for each 1 gallon of water every 12 hours. Repeat this three times over a period of 36 hours to equal 3 Teaspoons of salt per gallon of water.
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1113
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 04:10 pm:       

Ok dan, that I can do.

I think I might move him to the ten gallon. That's easier.
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dan
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Username: dan

Post Number: 6598
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 04:13 pm:       

i checked on that 1 percent and it's real .. but i wouldn't do it except for pond fish like koi.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8294
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 07:24 pm:       

You might think a tablespoon every 5 gallons. that will raise it a bit. enough to slow the oozing fluids.
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1117
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 07:44 pm:       

wowowowowwow too much math.

ok. I'll do whatever my dad will let me with the salt.
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1118
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 09:02 pm:       

Ok wait, I'm frekain out.

This wont hurt any of the other fish, those being tetras and cories? And is kosher salt ok? Thats all we had 5 tablespoons of.

ahh. I hate these types of situations
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1122
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 09:26 pm:       

well, in order to worry myself to death I read somewhere "SALT + CORIES = END OF YOUR TANK" or something along those lines. And I've got live plants in my 10 gallon, so thats out for treating. Would like a 'dip' or 'bath' be ok?

Sorry for the 3 posts in a row.
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dan
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Username: dan

Post Number: 6603
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 07:21 am:       

no, a dip or bath will not work. the object is to change the osmotic pressure in order to stop bodily fluids from escaping from the tissues. this is something that must be ongoing for a week or more, until the wound has healed. a quick dip will do nothing.

can you use salt on corydoras? i think they'll be fine at the levels you'll be using it but google it to be sure. plants ... dunno.
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Sully
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Username: sully

Post Number: 8298
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 08:47 am:       

hmmm, this has gotten really involved for something so simple.

Let me ask, is your fish doing fine?

if so, forget all about salt. damn thing has been tough enough to deal with his problem without your help, he will probably be tough enough to live through it anyway.
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russ
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Username: rsaqua

Post Number: 2723
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 12:01 am:       

Sam,

I deleted your post here because you have also started a separate post here:

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/discus/messages/17/54493.html?11413605 19
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Garrett
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Username: happiegilmor49

Post Number: 1137
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 04:34 pm:       

oh wow. I cant believe i forgot to update. no treatment yet, but it's healing up with water changes.
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