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Kyle
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Username: mr_bean

Post Number: 278
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:39 am:       

Skip to the bottom for the question, the rest is just backround info.


So I decided to downsize my marine project from a 30 to a 10 gallon tank. I finally realized that with only 3 damsels and 4 pounds of live rock (with little funds to do toooo much else) It would be best to just do the maintenence to keep up with a smaller tank. (I'm notorius for having way too much time on my hands for these things) Anyway, I did the change two weeks ago and all the fish are doing great, however the fish that were in the 10 were 3 dojo loaches (the 10 and fishes were commandeered from my little brother since he wasnt taking care of them) I put them in the 30 but didn't have any other substrate then the extra of the 35+ pounds of crushed coral (http://bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=33906;category_id=1677 thats the exact product ) So I rinsed it out to rid it of the salt and put a 2 inch layer at the bottom with the loaches. Since then they've loved it but I was wondering if it could be having an adverse affect on them i'm not seeing? I mean obviously its got to be sold for marine aquariums for a reason right? Is it going to be safe for freshwater fish in the long run?

Sorry thats an extremely long post so heres the main question.


Is it ok to have this crushed coral substrate with freshwater fish?
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Gopi
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Post Number: 1753
Registered: 01-2004


Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 01:23 pm:       

yeah sure. It'll keep the hardness up. I would be worried about loachie barbles if the coral isn't fine like sand. If the fishies you have require soft water (discus), than crushed coral isn't such a hot idea.
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russ
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Username: rasaqua

Post Number: 3960
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 04:35 pm:       

Especially with the 'almost liquid rock' over there in Manhattan.

You almost got me to not read that back round info. There are no Damsels within this universe, tht I know of, that is going to be anywhere near happy in a ten gallon tank.
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cindy
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Post Number: 9766
Registered: 05-2003


Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 07:42 pm:       

I predict the untimely death of two of them...

I have a tiger loach in my mbuna tank, and the crushed coral is no problem. He doesn't exactly root around for food, just snatches it out of the water column on the way down...or a cichlid's mouth. He is fearless.

Of course, dojo's will snuffle the substrate a bit, so keep an eye on their barbels.

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Kyle
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Username: mr_bean

Post Number: 281
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 03:13 pm:       

Yeah russ, I know what you mean about the water here lol. Hmmm if Cindy predicts the untimely death of two of them, I predict a bigger tank for the three of them! Yeah I got a pic yesterday of one of the dojos and his barbles are actually longer than i've seen on any dojo (mind that I don't go looking around at dojos often, but still.)

So yeah, bigger damsel tank. No soft water fish, got it! Thanks for the help guys.
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russ
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Username: rasaqua

Post Number: 3978
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 03:25 pm:       

IMHO, Green Chromis are much more fun to start with than Damsels. And they look great in small or large schools.
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Kyle
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Post Number: 283
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 03:29 pm:       

Oh! I so would have done that but the only place i've ever seen have them had them after I had already gotten the damsels talk about bad timing!
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Randy
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Username: milesteg

Post Number: 252
Registered: 01-2006


Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 04:16 pm:       

3 Damsels in a 10-gallon tank? The way they move around my 55 I can't see them being happy in a 10. Maybe you could think about a 20 long that would work a lot better for them.
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russ
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Username: rasaqua

Post Number: 3981
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 05:07 pm:       

Kyle,

Maybe you could offer them a trade. Where did you pick them up at, Pets N' Stuff, Animal House, or Manhattan Aquarium? They may actually get the better end of the deal though. Chromis are not very expensive. What kind of Damsels do you have?

I just have to ask....Is there a particular significance in the reference to the Delclaration of Independence in your signature?
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Kyle
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Username: mr_bean

Post Number: 287
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:13 am:       

HA! I didn't notice that.... Nah, no significance really. I actually got them at Scaley Daves. I ended up just taking the damsels back and stripping down the tank this weekend. I finally decided that despite all the planning and money that had already gone into it with the coral and such the budget wasnt quite ready for a saltwater tank. Oh well, we learn by experience.
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