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debbs
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 08:01 am:       

Ghost Shrimp (Callianassa californiensis)
Amano Shrimp ( Caridina japonica )

They look almost the same IMO

So why is everyone so into Amano Shrimp which are more expensive? Just curious :-)
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Randy
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 08:53 am:       

Hi,
I'm new to shrimp keeping and have not had ghost shrimp so am not familiar with them. I do have Amano and Red Cherry shrimp and enjoy them both. Maybe I'll look into some ghost shrimp the next time the opportunity comes around.

What do you call expensive? I have been getting Amano shrimp for 5 for $10.
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Musicalfingers
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:02 pm:       

Ghost shrimp cost 30 cents apiece around here, so $2 a shrimp is expensive for me! :-)
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debbs
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 01:33 pm:       

Ghost Shrimp here is 12/$1

So, why Amano? What's the difference besides the name and price?
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Shari
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 02:22 pm:       

Well......I've never owned Ghost Shrimp, but Amanos are some of the best algea eaters for their size that I've EVER had in my tanks :-)
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flyingfish
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 02:58 pm:       

I debated on getting Amano or Cherry. I researched and found that more people stated the cherry shrimp eats the widest vaiety of algae. I dont know how both would mix so I wont be getting Amano.

Tell you the truth I havent even seen ghost shrimp.
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Shari
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 03:27 pm:       

Frank, they mix just fine. I have both in one tank with Endler's and see them together a lot.

No problem :-)
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Debra Ann
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 03:54 pm:       

All this shrimp talk is making me hungry!

I think we'll go the Red Lobster tonight for dinner.

HTH, LOL
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cindy
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 09:58 pm:       

It's like the difference between a pleco and another catfish. It's not about looks, its about what they do for the tank. There are a lot of different ghost shrimp...all are scavengers and I've never seen one eat a speck of algae. Amanos are one type of shrimp in the algae eating shrimp group, eat tons of it, but will scavenge if they get the opportunity.

Here is a link that breaks down shrimp into four main categories and then provides links to fairly extensive lists of the various shrimp that fall into that category:

http://www.shrimpcrabsandcrayfish.co.uk/Shrimp.htm?Caridina.htm~mainFrame

Hmmm...that takes you straight to the algae eating shrimp page instead. Scroll down and clik on the shrimp link near the bottom to get to the page I was linking to. For some reason, all the URL's are the same....

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April
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 02:04 am:       

Amanos and ghosts are both $5.99 canadian at the LFS here....
But I have found a few breeders on the mainland that sell some for $2 each, plus shipping, which ends up working them out to around $3
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April
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 02:06 am:       

Amanos and ghosts are both $5.99 canadian at the LFS here....
But I have found a few breeders on the mainland that sell some for $2 each, plus shipping, which ends up working them out to around $3
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debbs
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:30 am:       

Before I asked this question, I did some researching myself. I found articles such as this one, http://fish.orbust.net/ghostshrimp.html that state Ghost Shrimp eat soft algae.

I had also read articles claiming Amano Shrimp eat algae. (and are very good at it!)

So, they both eat algae, 1 is better at it then the other......
Ghost shrimp breed in freshwater, Amano breed in brackish etc.

Ghost Shrimp are also used as 'feeders', never heard of Amano shrimp used as 'feeders'. (probably because of the availability and price)

So, I suppose Cindy answered my question....it's because they are 'great' algae eaters that people pay the extra cash for them?!
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Kim
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 10:07 am:       

and the fact that they are commonly called "Amano"

nothing like sticking his name on something to hike the price up.

I've never seen ghost shrimp around here though, just the japonica. Well...on second thought I better go check out that page and make sure they ARE japonica lol! Maybe we're paying $3 a shrimp here for Ghosts!
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cindy
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:26 am:       

Since there are so many different types of shrimp called "ghost" shrimp, I Googled your Callianassa californiensis, debbs, and those don't look anything like the ghost shrimp here, or anything like Amanos, either:

http://images.google.com/images?q=Callianassa+californiensis&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

The ghost shrimp here are all glass or grass shrimp:

http://www.shrimpcrabsandcrayfish.co.uk/Photos/deepakBlueBanded.jpg

...and don't look anything like japonica, which aren't readily available here.

I think availability sets price as much as looks, usefulness, name recognition or any other factor.

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debbs
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 04:50 pm:       

I definitely have this species: Ghost Shrimp (Callianassa californiensis) http://fish.orbust.net/ghostshrimp.html

I tried to get a picture of mine but there's no way without a good camera that I can get a decent, clear shape.

I guess I was just wondering if I was missing out on a good thing LOL
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Kelsey
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 06:01 pm:       

debbs,
I agree, the picture in the link you posted looks like a feeder type ghost shrimp. I think its possible that the profile has the incorrect photo paired with the scientific name.
That is the only one I've seen with that picture and that scientific name. (look at Cindy's google image search link) Looks like a totally different kind of ghost shrimp. Callianassa californiensis in every other link from google is a burrowing shrimp called a "bay ghost shrimp."
According to thekrib the family name for most of our ghost shrimp is Palaeomonetes
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debbs
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:21 pm:       

Kelsey, you hit it right on the nose!!
http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Live%20Food,%20Ghost%20Shrimp.htm

It seems I do indeed have the Palaeomonetes also known as feeder ghost shrimp. Thanks!
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Musicalfingers
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:17 pm:       

Dang, I'm starting to like PetsMart! I saw some REALLY cool shrimp (that I can't remember the name of at the moment). They were about two inches long, yellow with dark brown stripes, and had a four-pronged eating utensil, if you would...they looked like legs with fronds on them to catch food (obviously filter feeders); I think there were four but maybe six. Those things were COOL, let me tell you, but they were also EXPENSIVE. $12 for one shrimp. I like shrimp, but not that much!!
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cindy
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Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 09:46 am:       

Sound like bamboo shrimp, commonly sold at Petco, only occasionally at PETsMART. Go back to the same link I gave you:
http://www.shrimpcrabsandcrayfish.co.uk/Shrimp.htm?Caridina.htm~mainFrame

...but scroll down and click on "Fan shrimp" under "shrimp". Sorry I can't post a direct link. Goofy way to set up a website, the same URL at the top of every page, even the homepage, but it isn't the homepage's URL, it leads to algae eating shrimp every time, then you have to go backwards...

debbs, if you had scrolled down and clicked on "ghost shrimp", you would have seen yours there, too.

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Musicalfingers
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:56 am:       

Yup, that's it! Those things are cool, but expensive!!
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cindy
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:29 pm:       

They're only $5-6 each at Petco, and not going to get eaten by angelfish, like the amanos and cherries are...why not go take a peek?

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