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cq

Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 04:09 pm
Please help me if you have ever kept a betta in a community aquarium. I am planning out the contents of my aquarium. Right now, I have platies and am planning to add a couple of small gourami along with some catfish in the future after cycling completes. Can anyone tell me if introducing a betta to this tank will create chaos?

  

Kick

Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 08:33 pm
I wouldn't do it. Bettas are better off left by themselves. Their long flowing fins attract the others, and you will see in a very short time, the betta has no fins left. They are a more stationery fish, and don't swim alot, giving the aggressor ample time to attack. And with gouramis and cats in this tank, I definitely would not add this particular fish.

  

Anonymous

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 02:30 am
But would platties be a problem for one?

  

Kick

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 08:36 am
About the only thing that I can tell you regarding platys is to try it. I just prefer to keep my bettas as safe as possible, and keep them in their own quarters. I learned very quickly years ago with my first betta. Placed him in "peaceful" community tank, and everything seemed to be going great for everyone. However, the next morning, my betta had absolutely no fins left. To press the point further, I removed him immediately, but he was so beat up, he did not survive. Taught me a big lesson about what may happen after lights out, and I have just never taken the risk since.

  

Laura W.

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 11:27 am
Kick- off that subject, but did you get to actually post your message? Working now?

  

cq

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 01:30 pm
After watching my platys for the last couple of days, I am leaning towards agreeing with you. I have three right now in a tank that just finished cycling and my male has become agressive towards his two "girlfriends". He is continually chasing them around and I have caught him nipping at their tail fins.

 

 

  

marie6749

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 05:38 pm
cq- I also have 3 platys in a tank, they are the only fish in there. My male is doing the same thing to his "girlfriends". Constantly chasing them and occasionally nipping at their tails. I added some more "hiding spots" to my tank. Now at least they can get away from him. He has just started this and I don't know why. Just thought it was odd that we are both having the same problem.

  

Kick

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 06:56 pm
What you are seeing is the male trying to breed with the females. Seeing this would only confirm that a betta is not a good choice for this tank.

  

Kick

Friday, June 29, 2001 - 06:57 pm
That message went okay. Now I will try another.
Well, it appears to be working at this moment. I guess I will try some other topics to see what happens.

  

Carlos

Saturday, June 30, 2001 - 03:39 pm
Oh wow, no more incredibly annoying pop ups every time I go to a new page...

This sounds a lot like my very first question, about betta tankmates. One day when I have a bowl on hand I'll find out if bettas work with small tetras, and then I'll get back to you all.

  

cq

Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 10:04 am
I tried posting a question today and had the same error. I am really getting tired of this!

  

jeff

Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 12:17 pm
cq..we are really sorry about your message posting problems..badman is working on it..it does not seem to effect everyone.. his server plus the pop-ups(he didn't want)..seems to cause problems too..so please be patient..we are tryin hard..jeff(moderator)

  

EllenKelly

Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 10:45 am
I have had a lovely betta for about 4 months. He is in a fairly large fish bowl with no filtration or additional air. He has river stones in the bottom and seems OK. Is there any other fish we can add that he would enjoy interacting with? Dumb question?? He seems healthy and he's lovely

  

joycedonley

Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 10:52 am
Kick is the betta expert and she will probably reply to your post when she get a chance. From reading her betta input, I would say NO do not add any other fish. Goldfish are very messy and will pollute your water. Tropicals need heaters and filtration. Also most fish will chew on your bettas fins.

  

Kick

Saturday, July 14, 2001 - 05:38 pm
Can't really add any others with the betta just being in a bowl. Gouramis are also anabantoids (get their air supply from the surface of the water), but these do not usually go well with bettas and grow too large for a bowl. Stick with keeping him by himself. All other species that "might" possibly work need aeration in the water that cannot be provided in a bowl situation. Sorry.

  

Anonymous

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 02:06 am
Hmm...I have my betta in a 20 gallon tank with two bronze cory cats, and they seem to get along just fine...there's no other inhabitants at this time, so perhaps it is just amply roomy. Who can say with those tricky bettas...you all may have already seen this website, but this lady seems to know alot about bettas...
http://www.bettatalk.com/
good luck :)

  

Anonymous

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 06:37 am
so does kick!

  

joycedonley

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 07:34 am
Are you guys two different anonymous people?

  

Kick

Saturday, July 21, 2001 - 10:33 am
To anonymous No. 1 (how about some names here...we won't bite!!!) The corys will usually be okay with bettas, however, the cories get their air supply differently from the betta, and if you don't have any aeration or filtration for them, they won't be lasting long. (Read my previous post.) You "can" keep certain species with bettas, but you need to pick and choose wisely if you want the betta's fins to remain intact.

  

boofish

Monday, July 23, 2001 - 12:27 pm
oh yes there is filtration etc (I'm not talking about a fish bowl.) I was too lazy to pick a username, I'm sorry. My betta really loves the aquarium, he swims all over the place. Thx for advice. Have any of you ever kept any tetras with a betta? What kinds? What kind of results did this bring?

  

Kick

Monday, July 23, 2001 - 06:18 pm
Boofish, (thanks for the name, and it is pretty cool BTW)I usually don't keep anything in with my bettas. I fear the results as posted above and just dont' take the chance. However, I do know folks who have had cories in with them and they do fine. Also recently, I have experienced much algae in my divided betta tank and purchased some oto cats. Low and behold, they basically ignore each other, so I know otos will now work too. Some of the tetra varieties like to pick and chase the betta, and about the only thing you could do to see is try. I will warn you, however, that things could look great in the daylight, but when lights out, they might perform "undercover" and create problems for the betta. If you do try this (or maybe someone can tell you for sure), let us know how things turn out.

  

katie

Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 05:44 pm
just thougth i add my experience....I have neon tetras(four) in a 5 gallon tank with a betta. He chased them at first bc he was so spoiled all by himself in a five...But for about three months all seems well. No fin damage.

  

boofish

Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 06:34 pm
thanks guys, i will let you know what i try.


  

cq

Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 12:22 pm
Noticed something weird in my tank today as I was feeding. I noticed one of my fish going after what looked like a really tiny piece of flake. I was amazed to find that the "flake" avoided the fish and darted away. THis happened a couple more times until it dove down into the substrate. Upon closer inspection, it looked like a really tiny white speck in sort of a triangular shape. Does anyone have a clue as to what this might be?

  

peter

Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 05:16 pm
have you ever watched or read "Horton Hears a Who"?

If you turn off your filter and stay quiet for a while, you may be able to hear them faintly chanting, " We're here! We're here! We're here!"

  

jeff

Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 12:01 am
cq..flat with kinda arrowhead shape head?..could be planaria...feeding on waste in substrate..

  

cq

Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 09:35 am
Thanks Jeff. Are they dangerous to fish? Should I be doing anything to get rid of these things? I noticed more today

  

Kick

Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 09:44 am
Testing to see if I can post here. I can't seem to post on any of the other topics but this went the first time so will try to help here.

If you have live plants, they may have entered the tank in this way. They will not hurt anything as long as their numbers are kept in check. Siphoning the gravel surface, "underfeeding" the fish or getting a gourami to eat them will help reduce them. I don't know of a product right now that will kill them, but maybe Jeff will have an idea.

Overfeeding and poor maintenance of a tank are the reasons these critters develop and mulitply.

  

jeff

Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 11:21 am
cq..you didn't confirm that's what I described..if it is planaria(most likely)..as kick said usually overfeeding is the problem..simply stop feedin for a few days of try the blue or 3 spot gourami as kick suggested..

  

cq

Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 02:28 pm
I really don't know Jeff. How big do planaria get? These things look like little triangular shaped specks. I did a little research on planaria on the net and the pictures I saw don't really correspond to what's in my tank. They literally are little tiny specks. I will keep a close watch and let you know if I see anything new. At any rate, thanks for all your help

  

jeff

Wednesday, July 04, 2001 - 03:56 pm
cq..no prob..I just wanted to be sure is all..planaria can get to about 1/2" long..if you can just suck some out of your substrate and look at them through a magnifying glass if you can..then we will know for sure

  

Kick

Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 10:01 am
It may not be planaria or maybe they are in the juvenile form right now and eyeballing them can't tell you exactly what they are yet. As Jeff mentioned, if you can catch one, look under mag glass and describe further, you many have some kind of "bug" instead. At any rate, if it "avoided" the fish, maybe the fish you have in the tank will eventually eat them. But I would hold back on the feeding some to diminish their food supply. If you think planaria is not what you have, email me and I can send you some pictures and maybe you can decide from there what is swimming around "unwanted" in your tank.

  

Anonymous

Friday, July 06, 2001 - 01:26 pm
It sounds like it could be a sea monkey (juvenile ghost shrimp). Do you keep any shrimp? They make good food if that's what it is.

  

cq

Friday, July 06, 2001 - 01:50 pm
Don't keep any shrimp. I have been keeping my eyes peeled for these things the last couple of days and have seen nothing. Maybe my platies are eating whatever they are (God knows they eat everything else that gets in their way). BTW, I now have a tank full of platies: 3 originals, 3 juveniles that survived from the last batch of fry, and around 10-15 new fry and one of my females is pregnant again! Very overwhelming. Should have done more research on livebearers before I bought them. I either need to find a fish that thinks little platies make a great afternoon snack or find someone to take all these fish off my hands when they grow up!!

  

cq

Friday, July 06, 2001 - 01:50 pm
On the bright side, looks like all the posting problems are fixed. No problems today or yesterday

  

joycedonley

Friday, July 06, 2001 - 10:49 pm
Cq sometimes the parents will eat the fry. Are you saving them all or are your platy just being 'nice' parents? I know if you had swordtails in there they would chow them down. Platy are less likely to eat fry than most of the other livebearers.

 

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