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Rachel Foreman

Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 09:11 pm
A friend of mine told me that angels are better kept in pairs. I haven't read anywhere that this is true, but I have been thinking of getting another angel for my tank. I'd like to have another but I don't want to end up with a breeding pair, or a pair that constantly fights. I'm open to any info or suggestions that might help me out. Thanks.

  

Kick

Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 10:37 pm
Usually if you have a female/male pair there will be no fighting. And you really don't need to worry about fry if you don't want them as the others in the tank will eat the eggs. Just make sure that U have enough room in the tank for another angel as they can sometimes grow very large and need plenty of room to move and swim.

  

Rachel Foreman

Friday, August 03, 2001 - 12:23 pm
Thanks. I have another question for you then. I'm not sure if I have a male or female. I'm pretty sure that it is a male. I know male angels are known to have large foreheads, some even aquire a bump on their forehead as they grow older. The trouble with that is that my angel is only a little over a year old, quite big for its age, but still hard to tell. How would I know or find out? It would be good to know, that way I know to get a male or a female.

  

joycedonley

Friday, August 03, 2001 - 07:46 pm
Rachel I have had angels for five years and cannot tell the males from females. It is very difficult unless you have a successful breeding. My female lay eggs even though they aren't fertilized,which is why I know one tank has two females. Like Kick said they almost always eat their eggs so it's really not necessary to worry about unwanted fry!

  

joycedonley

Friday, August 03, 2001 - 07:48 pm
Last note my two gals don't fight each other much...just sometimes chase a bit, but they are in a 40H tank and have lots of room. My other pair(males? females?) is in a 29gal and have lots of plants to avoid each other if they are moody.

  

Rachel Foreman

Friday, August 03, 2001 - 09:35 pm
Thanks Joyce. Well, I forgot that the females will lay eggs. No eggs yet and I have had my angel since it was 6 months old, its a little over a year old now. I guess I can be comfortable with HIS name now. I called him "little guy" the first day I got him.

  

Kick

Friday, August 03, 2001 - 10:49 pm
It is very easy to tell the difference between males and females once they are old enough...usually about 6 months. The males have a hump on the top "of their head" starting a little behind their mouth. The females are "straight-lined" from the tip of their little "noses" back to the doral fin. If you can't decide whether or not there is a "hump" and the angel is old enough, you have a female. It is really quite noticable in the the males.

  

joycedonley

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 08:03 am
Thanks Kick for that info. Maybe my one black marble is a male since he does have the hump. It's funny though that the silver with him without a hump hasn't laid any eggs? In my 40H the pair(no humps) keeps laying them over and over. It's all the same ro water. All the angels are the same age except the old black marble. By the way Rachael mine seem to start laying a day or two after my water changes.

  

Rachel Foreman

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 09:27 am
Okay, I've taken a good look at my fish. And now I am more inclined to think that it is a female. After all, no hump. However, no eggs either. When would she start laying them? She's already a little over a year old. Or could my 2 gouramis be eating the eggs before I get a chance to see them?

  

joycedonley

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 10:52 am
Yes other fish will eat the eggs, so that's one possiblity. I don't think they always lay eggs unless the conditions are right. Mine were about two years old when they started and every month or so lay a new batch. I have a pleco in the tank now and I am sure he eats any eggs before I see them. I used to notice them in the AM when I turned on the tank light! I decided to try breeding in the far future with mbuna since the fry are a little larger and hatching brine shrimp to feed babies is not my favorite thing.Also rescuing angel eggs from be cannibalized sounds like a tricky procedure.

  

Kick

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 11:44 pm
If you want the fry to make it, a really good idea is to put a piece of slate slanted in the tank. They will usually lay their eggs on this if it is present. If you want to try to raise the fry, you need to remove the the piece of slate that has the eggs attached to it by scooping it out within a jar or bowl and moving it to another tank. Until the fry hatch, you need quite a bit of aeration in the tank and some Maracide added keeps fungus from setting in. Removing them gives them a better of chance of being able to hatch before the others snack on them.

  

Rachel

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 11:52 pm
Hello everyone, I actually don't have a question, just a quirky little story to say about my angel. I was at the local pet store picking up a few things( food, conditioners ect)and decided that my angel and his tankmates(2 kissing gouramies) might enjoy a little treat. So I bought some freeze dried baby shrimp. I take them home and throw some in the tank. My gouramies eat them in a second. My angel however, takes one in her mouth, and then spits it out. She does it a few more times, and then finally eats one. She did this over and over for a few minutes, and left a bunch there. I never realized that fish can be such picky eaters. P.S.-I'm now just going to post as Rachel, It's much easier.

  

joycedonley

Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:21 am
Rachel angels are really funny sometimes. One minute mine are chasing each other, the next buddies and swimming side by side. Mine always try to grab algae wafers for the pleco, but they just can't hang on to it!

 

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