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Anonymous

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 07:56 pm
hi im trying to breed my guppy but it seem like
none of my female are pracnant so... how do i mate them asap and how can i tell whether it's pracnant or not! thank you

  

joycedonley

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 07:52 am
How many females how many males? Sometimes it just takes a little patience and time for them to settle into your tank.You should see swelling in the abdomen when they are pregnant. Once they start you will have trouble getting them to stop. If they have full stomachs and the next AM are flat or thin you can be sure they had the fry during the night. If this happens check for fry in your filter or hiding under plants. Another possiblity is that they have all been eaten since guppies will eat their fry very fast!

  

Kick

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 09:24 am
Anon, have to go to work shortly, but look for me this eve sometime, and I will help you with this.

  

Anonymous

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 11:04 pm
i have about 4 male and 3 female
i been told that if the female is pregnant
you will a black spot inside her stomach.
but how big will it get though? because i fed
them quite a lot of brine shrimp
so its kind of hard to tell because all of them
are pretty fat. and you can see their stomach is
really red. if the do eat their fry really fast
is there a way to preven that?
ps: i also have one gold fish and one algea eater
do they eat the frys too?
thank you

  

joycedonley

Saturday, July 21, 2001 - 08:11 am
Almost all the fish will eat fry if given the opportunity. If you have some floating plants the babies will hide in these until they can be rescued. You can either start another small tank for the fry so it is cycled or transfer a sponge from the main tank to get it going.. or get what is called a net breeder. Iboy has used net breeders and you still need to make sure a little water circulates into it...maybe put near a powerhead or every so often pour in a little tank water. Do not ever use the platic breeding traps because they do not allow enough water circulation. The goldish does not belong in a tank with tropical fish as they need cooler water and also create a lot of waste. You would do better to remove the goldfish and get more females for the males. It is better to have more girls than guys so they don't get picked on.Yes you will se a darker spot on their stomach and may even be able to see parts of the fry.The spot should be black not red so keep an eye on their health.Ps be sure to not overfeed...if you are feeding quite a lot and plus the goldfish it sounds like you mayb be heading for problems.

 

 

  

Kick

Saturday, July 21, 2001 - 10:27 am
First of all, if you want your fry to live, you will need to remove the goldfish and the algae eater. If you don't want to mess with breeder nets, etc., the tank needs to be densely planted so the babes have a place to hide from the other guppies in the tank, and, I don't have much problems with keeping my fry in my guppy species tank by having the plants. I don't bother with removing them from the parents.

It usually takes about 6 weeks for the first fry to appear, but guppies "hold" sperm so after the first brood, you can see fry at just about any time. The dark spot you are seeing definitely tells me they should be pregnant. I am concerned about the redness you mention, however, as this is "not" normal.

Just be patient, remove the bigger fish, and I would assume that before too long you are going to see fry. Make sure you have "dry" fry food or very finely crushed flakes to feed them. Stay away from liquid fry food as this will foul the water very quickly.

  

Anonymous

Monday, July 23, 2001 - 06:16 pm
i think i might as well remove both of my guppy that's pregnant to a different tank and also... as far as the temp of the tank goes, should i just leave it at a certain temp 24/7 ? or should i just leave it up and down... for ex: the place where i live is pretty cold so i have to turn on heater constantly but my tank temp is around 75-80 and thats when all my fishes are active so should i just leave the heater on all day and all night to make it constant or i should turn it off at night? when i wake up.. my tank temp is around 70-72... so.. what should i do????
ok thank you
btw... how big could a pregnant female guppy stomach get? is it noticeable?
ok thank you

  

Kick

Monday, July 23, 2001 - 06:28 pm
Anony, yes the temp of the tank should be as constant as possible. Fluctuating temps will cause stress to the fish which can result in ick or other maladies. Temps of 72 to 76 is about right so set your heater at this temp and leave it alone. If the water becomes too warm, it just won't come on, but if the temp lowers below what it is set for, it will automatically heat to the degrees it is set. Guppies are not really all that particular about water temps., but I do feel they do better with the water at the above range I mentioned.

The only problem with "removing" the pregnant ones is that they may not really be pregnant yet, and the males can't fertilize them. Just make sure you have plants in your main tank, and there should be not problems with the fry surviving.

A pregnant guppy will display a swollen belly, and you can see a dark spot at the rear of this. As the time grows closer on some guppies, you can even sometimes see the fry's eyes. It "should" be noticeable, however, sometimes, it is not. I have a whole tank full and most of the time when I see new ones, I am not absoluely sure who the momma is. Let nature take its course, and when the time is right, you will see some babes.

  

Anonymous

Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 03:57 am
cool thank you one thing though that i kinda hate about having a lot of plant is when i feed them... the food get rotten on the fake plants and its hard to clean! well but now i start to feed them with brine shrimp more than flakes so... i guess i should give it another try and which plants do you preferred? real or fake? if real what type?
thank you!
once again thank you for all your help

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 07:45 am
Anonymous with my platies the 'real' floating water lettuce worked well for me. I also had a ball of some light/tiny plants that floated around like tumbleweed (I don't know what it was) that they loved hiding in the center of.

  

Kick

Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 08:30 am
If you see too much food left on the plants (and I would advise fake ones as the live plants open up lots of other issues for you) then you may be feeding too much. Just a very little bit once a day should be sufficient until the fry arrive. Then 3 to 4 "real small" feedings are required for their growth. It could be that what you are seeing on the plants is not food but an algae growth. IMO, any of the "fine leafed" fake plants work well, and you don't need the whole tank full of them. Just enough so the little ones can swim into and around the leaves for cover.

  

Anonymous

Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 04:45 pm
thank you
today i just went to this place around my house
called pet club i found some very cool stuff there but what struck me the most was this
live rocks... i read about those couple of time and i find them really cool. one question though... should i get it? i know there are a lot of draw back to it... but what do you guys think? will it danger my guppys or my other fishes? will it carry any diseases or will it be any other problems at all? and if i should get it, which one is the best?
thank you
and i will do try all those method that u guys mention

  

joycedonley

Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 08:47 am
I believe you are talking about the marine substrate. There is also live sand. These do not belong in a tropical fish tank and yes there may be parasites and/or bacteria that will endanger your fish. It should only be in a reef or marine tank! Also if it is not cured properly it can decay and polute your tank. This is not for beginners!

  

Kick

Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 09:59 pm
Joyce is right. Live rock is needed "only" in a reef tank and you cannot supply it with the nutrients and salinity it needs in a freshwater tank. I cannot believe the LPS person did not tell you that, but it stands to reason. She probably didn't know either. Sorry to disappoint you. And you are no where near ready to try a reef tank. These take a lot of know-how plus they are very expensive to start up and operate. Just keep after your guppies for now, get a few plants in there and watch the fun begin when you start seeing those fry! Good luck!!

  

Anonymous

Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 06:20 pm
something terrible happened!
it seem like, one of my male guppy die
and i cant seem to find the cause of it!
because 2 days ago it seem like everything is
ok, my 4 m and 3 f live happy and yesterday
when i count my fishes, one of them is missing
which i tried to look for it but it seem useless...
and this afternoon when i came home, i found my male guppy thats missing die floting and it seem like the other fish try to eat it because all of his fin and tail were gone but his body still remain! is it me? or is it natural because i did everything right! my other fish seem healthy but how come this one die. how long is there lifespan anyway? i cant seem to find what was wrong and now im really confuse and stress out!
thank you

  

joycedonley

Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 08:19 pm
You have to give more info. How large is your tank? How often do you change the water? How much water do you change 10-15-20-25%??? What kind of filter do you have? How long did you have the fish...was it a recent addition? What are your water parameters...ammonia, nitrate, ph, etc?Livebearers don't live as long as some Cichlids, but they should last a couple of years anyways!

  

Anonymous

Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 07:06 pm
hmmm something interesting is happening
2 of my female guppy is laying on the bottom
of the aquarium and one of my male is on the top circling around them! are they pragnent?
but their stomach doesn't seem big and they dont seem to have black spot, but instead, its red!
what is wrong or going on with my guppy

  

Kick

Sunday, July 29, 2001 - 07:48 pm
Back up Anonymous (and by the way, can you give us a name here. Too many folks go by anonymous and we don't know if we we are talking to one person or several). If you are the same one as above where the fish died, yes, it is normal for other fish to feed off of dead ones. What happened to cause the death is unknown to all of us. Sometimes it just happens. However, the above things Joyce has asked you is pertinent if you are the Anonymous that posted again which I assume you are. Usually guppies, either male or female, don't lie on the bottom of the tank. They may be pregnant, but you will see swelling of their tummies and also a black spot right before the pelvic fin, but this may not be obvious at first. I am unsure of what the red spot could be unless some type of infection has gotten into the fish. It really sounds to me like your water quality is very poor and the fish are suffereing from it. You need to tell us your water perimeters as Joyce mentioned before we can help you. We also need to know what type of filtration you have, and if there is none then this is your biggest problem. Guppies need filtration and aeration in the tank for survival. If you don't test your water for any of the above, then you need to get some test kits and start immediately. If you have several in this tank/bowl, etc., they may be suffereing from ammonia poisoning. Let us hear from you and we will see what we can come up with.

  

Art

Monday, July 30, 2001 - 03:24 am
ok my tank size is 10 g. my filter is pretty much undergravel combine with powerhead. i also have some fake plants and around my tank. I pretty much change water once a week, about 15%. the only problem right now that i have is the female! all my male are fine, 3 of them. but 2 of mine female are kinda... weak! one of them seem to be hiding alot and she hardly move and it seem like shes having hard time breathing. another one is always on top of them water, not to get some air but just like hanging out on top of the plant and my third female just swiming around sometimes up sometimes down, but most of the time just hanging out with the rest!... and thats about it. i think its maybe of indigestion because she seem like shes having hard time moving. Tomorrow i will try to pick up some more supplies for my tank.

  

Kick

Monday, July 30, 2001 - 09:24 am
Welcome Art! Good to know you have a name!!!

Okay, first I need to know how long this tank has been up and running? And the first think you need to do is get some test kits for ammonia/nitrite (most important) and pH. From what you are telling us, I tend to lean that one or two things may be happening. If you have variations of pH from your tap to the tank, it could be the water changes every week are causing the problem. If this is a new tank, it could be it is in the middle of the cycle and either the ammonia or nitrites are too high. It doesn't sound like the tank is overstocked with the 6 (??) fish that you have in there unless you put them all in at one time. Give me a little more information about this tank and I will try my best to help you.

  

Art

Monday, July 30, 2001 - 08:21 pm
ok, i just tested my water and my ammonia is at 0 and my ph is around 7.6
this tank been there for about a little less than a month. and actually, i also have 1 goldfish, one of those algea eater and angel fish, im trying to move the angel fish out but i also have another tank that have my other big goldfish which he acted really violent toward my other fish so i have to keep him seperated. the funny thing is, all of them seem fine. Other than the sick one (which he is now hinding under all my plants for some reason, i saw him came out hour ago but he seem to be back in there.. ) i find this really weird because how come the rest is fine but that one isn't because if there is something actually wrong with my water, how come the rest of them aren't like that?
anyway i didn't buy the nitrite test kit i only bought the ammonia and ph. i guess i might as well go back there and pick one up later today.
but is there anything else you need to know?
and yes, first i bought 4 guppy then i added 3 more in.

  

joycedonley

Monday, July 30, 2001 - 08:40 pm
Art a 10 gallon tank is way too small for an angelfish. They grow to about six inches and from what fish you are keeping I suggest you try to return it to the LFS store. You just cannot put it in your other tank with goldfish. You should not keep goldfish with ANY tropical fish. Goldfish need cooler water and also are pretty messy fish. If your tank has been up less than a month I think you are adding the fish too fast. If you would have just put the guppys in it might have been okay, but adding a goldfish to the rest was a bad idea. Also sometimes new additions just don't make it. They may be stressed due to a move to the LFS and then to your tank over a short time span.Please give Kick your nitrite test kit readings she needs to know that your tank is cycled to help you out.By the way what kind of those algae eater fish do you mean?

  

Art

Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 01:34 am
my reading are below .1 of nitrite... i know that angel fish will grow pretty big that's why im trying to remove it to the other tank that i got. and btw how many of the guppy do you think is appropriate for 10g. tank?
thank you

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 07:20 am
Art you said you had goldfish in the other tank you have. Goldfish are just not appropriate tankmates for angelfish. If you keep mixing the two types you are going to have very unhealthy fish and problems in the long run. You have to keep a heater in a tropical fish tank and the water is just too warm for goldfish. If you don't keep the tropicals heated they stand a good chance of getting ich or just dying eventually from improper water conditions. Also since goldfish are messy they cause a lot of fish waste and you shouldn't keep a lot of fish with them. I would say if you ONLY have guppies in your 10 you could probably keep at least 8-10 guppies. Do not put a buch in at once! When your tank has been up for a month,add a pair wait a couple of weeks and add another pair. Also you do realize that these guppies will eventually start breeding and you will need more and more tanks!! Maybe keeping to four or five and leaving room for babies is a better idea. To keep babies from being eaten you need lots of plants or plastic plants for them to hide.

  

Kick

Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 08:31 am
You can have several more guppies in a 10 gallon if that is the only thing you keep in there. I have a 5 gallon and right now have about 20 (some are fry) and things are fine. But the tank must be cycled, and you must be religious on your water changes. Just leave what guppies you have in the l0 gallon tank, remove the angelfish to another tank, minus the goldfish, and if you have females, which you do, you won't have to buy any more guppies. In fact, you will looking for someone to take some of them shortly. And my tiny babies swim right along with the adults. As Joyce said, goldfish and tropicals do not really go well together as they are coldwater fish and produce quite a bit more waste, but you can keep them together if you are very careful about your water changes and set the heater at about 72. It will work as I have done it. It is just not a great idea.

 

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