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Neon tetra looks bad

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tracywilson

Tuesday, July 17, 2001 - 10:19 pm
Hello to all!! I have five neons and one of them has lost his coloring on top and down on his sides. It doesn't look like ich and the other fish are not getting it. This is the second time that he has gotten it and the other fish all seem fine. He acts nornal and eats normal. He just looses his coloring. Does anyone have suggestions as to what he may have. It almost looks like he has been picked on but I don't see the other fish picking on him
Thanks for all that you can help me with this problem!!

  

Kick

Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 01:54 am
Could be a disease neons get called....what else?...neon tetra disease. They, in fact, lose their colors, but generally when this happens they are not long for this world. Could be the little guy is stressed for one reason or another since you say the color goes and then comes back. However, to be on the safe side, I think I probably would remove him to another (hospital) tank as NTD is contagious, and there is no known cure. You do not want to risk losing the others, if this is NTD. BTW, how long have you have these fish, and is this tank a new set up? This could help us determine a little better what may be going on with this fish.

  

joycedonley

Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 02:18 pm
I agree with Kicks advice. My neons always seemed to get neon tetra disease, so I gave up on them a long time ago.

  

tracywilson

Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 03:27 pm
The tank has been set up for three months. This neon is a original, so I have had him for three months. The others I have had for about two months and they all seem fine. Upon checkingon the fish this morning my sick neon looks better and he is getting his color back. So now I am relly confused. I have seen pictures of neon tetra disease and he don't look like the pictures.
So what do you think? Again thanks for all that you can do for me!!

  

jeff

Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 05:34 pm
tracy...perhaps just stress...get some real good tetra food...these guys need nutirents as their system absorbs food quickly rather than sitting aroung in the belly,which is pretty much nothing.

 

  

tracywilson

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 12:27 am
Thanks Jeff!! Is there any type that you reccemend?(sp) I use Tetra Min now. They have also been getting frozen brine shrimp lately and loving it. Will this also help?

  

jeff

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 01:49 am
ok..no that is pretty good food..also,if you are feeding frozen brine shrimp try to get the san fransico bay brand it is the best IMO..be sure you thaw and rinse well before feeding.. the waste from them will foul the water and cause increases in algae,ammonia nitrites,and nitrate levels..oh I heard the new life spectrum food is really good too.also just curious what is your tank set-up?..maybe we can figure out if they are stressed from something?...if you do decide to get more or can..just really look at them at the LPS...tetras should have nice full rounded bellies and good color...if not they have been starved or sick..so just a tip..have fun and a great tank.

  

tracywilson

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 06:39 pm
Jeff...My tank set-up is ...I have a 1o gallon tank with very good airation,I have a power filter and my tank has been set up for 3 months.
I keep the temp. at 76-78. The ph is 7.0,ammonia is 0. The fish that I have in the tank are : 5 neons, 5 glolights, 2 platys, a corry, a african dwarf frog, and two otto cats. I clean the tank every week and do a 20% water change. Does this help you out any more?
Thanks again

  

jeff

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 10:53 pm
k..tracy..your tank is a bit over stocked by standard rules...a 10 gal tank is pretty small for all those free swimmers and can push your bio-load a bit...it's also harder to maintain..your water changes are probably what is keeping things under control..If the rest of your water perameters are good than they probably are just stressed. IMO I would get a bigger tank for your friends in there like a 20gal..nice substrate..and a few floating plants.

  

joycedonley

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 07:42 am
Tracy until you get the larger tank go real easy on the frozen shrimp. I have used it and it really adds more waste than the flake food. I know the shrimp are really good nutrient-wise for your fish, but if you have a higher bioload in the tank you really need to watch for any excess food waste. Actually hatching and feeding live shrimp adds less waste than the frozen. The live shrimp will live and swim for a brief period in the tank, so the fish have more time to catch and eat them.

  

tracywilson

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 12:57 pm
Thanks for all the input guys!! It really helps me out. Oh and Jeff I forgot to tell you that I do have live plants in the tank. Does this also help the bio-load? Just a thought Also if I get a bigger tank will I be able to add just one more fish? A little bit bigger one to see more movement in my tank than I am see know? If not that is okay too because my one platy will probably get bigger
Thanks again

  

jeff

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 04:21 pm
ah..good tracy...live plants help absorb ammonia and such..so that's great..and get the biggest tank you can afford that's my motto..your 10 gal will make a great hospital tank or a spare too..heck you can even shop around for a good used one!..now stocking depends mainly on how big each fish can get and how much water a species may need..the 1" per fish per gal is just a rule of thumb for many...you go girl!..

 

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