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fishman

Monday, August 27, 2001 - 07:42 pm
I have a ten gallon tank that had fish in it until they were wiped out. I have since cleaned it using aquarium salt and i am now looking for fish for it again. i would like to have some cichlids in their with an oscar but I have no experience with either of those fish. I would like to have colorful fish so if those do not sound good in a ten gallon do you have any suggestions for fish to put in their?

  

boofish

Monday, August 27, 2001 - 08:33 pm
Oscar's get really huge! You can't keep one in a ten gallon...well maybe for a couple of weeks.... they grow super fast. Why don't you go for some schooling fish.... tetra's, rasboras, danios, cory catfish.... you can keep approx 10 inches of full grown fish in a 10 gallon aquarium. I'm afraid I don't know anything about cichilids....

  

joycedonley

Monday, August 27, 2001 - 09:48 pm
I have many cichlid (festivum, angel,mbuna) and a ten gallon is really too small. I think even with a pair of krib or Bolivian ram (dwarf cichlids)I would opt for a 20 gallon tank. Cichlid are territorial which mean they need their space and if they don't get it tend to beat each other up. Even the male can attack a female if the tank is too small. Also most Cichlid grow large my angelfish are six inches and my festivum are eight inches! As boofish said Oscar need at least 55 gallons for one. I know people on the web with Oscars in a 120 gallon aquarium to give you an idea of the suggested tank size! Stick with what boofish suggested or buy a big tank.

  

Kick

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 10:36 am
I agree with boofish and Joyce. Rethink this tank. No oscar as mentioned previously....they become way to large for a small 10 gallon and cichlids would not be my choice either. There are many varieties of other species that remain small....guppies...many of the tetras grow only to 2 inches...or danios. These are all peaceful fish and can live in close quarters comfortably. Most of the above mentioned are shoaling fish and need to be in groups of 3 or more. Hope this helps.

 

  

fishman

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 01:17 pm
ok so oscars and cichlids are not a good idea for a ten gallon tank. are there any fish that are as good looking as the cichlids and oscars? I have gotten bored of the same old neon, molly, and danio. THANKS FOR THE HELP

  

Rose

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 02:46 pm
You could try a pair of Kribs and a algae eater in the 10g. I have that set up but my tank has live plants in it too. It works out well. I haven't had any problems with this set up. Make sure you have lots of places for them to hide if they decide to. They love slate in the tank. Thats where they will lay eggs most of the time. Rose

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 04:12 pm
I personally think bettas are really beautiful fish and perfect for a 10 gallon. They just don't do well with tankmates! Kick has many bettas and can give you great advice on them if you are interested.

  

fishman

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 07:19 pm
What are kribs? I dont believe I have ever seen them before. are they cool looking fish? are they friendly? and how hard are the bettas? would they die like in a week or what? thanks again

  

joycedonley

Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 07:48 am
www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/9239/Egglayers/Kribensis.html for a picture of KRIB. The site also agrees with my recommendation of 20 gallons. Rose has been keeping fish a long time and maybe that experience helps with going with a smaller tank. For a beginner that is currently having a little bad luck with your other tank I would suggest sticking with an easier fish for now. Kribensis or pelvicachromis pulcher are also really a brackish fish and do better with salt added to the water. If you have a pair and they do attempt to breed they will not be friendly little fish to any others that happen to be around.
Bettas are pretty neat in that they can breathe air, so if your tank water isn't perfect at least they can get some air. They will flair at a mirror reflection of themself as they are fighting fish. The males will fight each other to death. That's really why you can only have one. Also they will kill a female that isn't ready to breed, so try to get advice from Kick on them. By the way the come in purples, blue, red...all kinds of gorgeous colors!

  

katie

Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 06:43 am
Hi-I have a five gallon, and I didn't have good luck with many fishes-because i always tried to put too many in or fishes that weren't compatible...So take the advise about what kinds to put in...I have a betta and some neons-although i am hearing glowlight tetras are easier to keep...My betta just loves having all that room. He is a beautiful blue. maybe you can buy lighting that will help with the vivid colors..cardinal tetras are brighter than neons..I have one other thing to mention...can't believe no one mentioned it-did you cycle you tank before? I am really lucky i didn't loose my fish-i didn't know anything about it till recently. but i had my betta in there and didn't add the neons till much latter....good luck -shop around because you will find many things and have to make a decision about who ends up in the tank. ONce they are in there if you are taking care of them-you are limmited to do much else.

  

fishman

Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 12:39 pm
Hey katie what do you mean by cycling my tank?

  

fishman

Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 12:44 pm
How often do the kribs lay eggs? and how many should I buy so they pair off?

  

joycedonley

Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 01:32 pm
Fishman read the genesis article on Badmans main board. Katie means it takes approxomately 30 days for a tank to establish enough good bacteria to breakdown your ammonia from food and fish waste.High levels of ammonia are toxic to fish and can kill them. I suggested you use a 20 gallon for krib. If you put territorial cichlid in a small tank you do run the risk of them beating each other up. Your choice, but if any difficulties with torn fins etc come up I guess you will have to deal with it. I think if you risk adding more than a pair for sure you will have some major problems.(besides you should have less than approx. 10 inches of adult fish in a 10gallon tank and more than 2 krib will be over that) We can only advise on this message board...can't make anybody follow the advice.

  

joycedonley

Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 01:36 pm
Good catch Katie. Fishman posted under fish disease for his other tank. Maybe that tank was also not cycled in the first place. Cichlid are also not a good choice to cycle a tank.

  

fishman

Friday, August 31, 2001 - 06:53 am
I use feeder guppies when I first start a tank for the reason of bacteria. I have a gourami in the 20 gallon. would the krib beat it up?

  

joycedonley

Friday, August 31, 2001 - 07:09 am
If they try to breed they will probably beat up all but a armored catfish.(If you just have one female krib probably not?) Everything I have read on them says they get very protective of their fry and will attack any smaller fish around. Do some further research on breeding them also...they usually just have offspring of one sex from what I have read. Supposedly the more acid water will promote a predominace of females. Also the male fry are stronger and have a tendancy to survive the female fry. Some LFS stores may not want one sex if you try to sell and you may end up with a whole lot of krib.

 

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