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Just General Advice for a beginner

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Anonymous

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 02:31 pm
I have a 30 gallon tank which is lightly planted with no decorations. I have 12 neons, 12 guppies, 2 platies, 2 sailfin mollies, 1 Red Tailed Black Shark, 6 Harlequin, 6 Rummy-nosed Tetras, 2 Black Widows, 4 Bristlenosed Catfish, 2 clown loaches, 1 rainbow shark and 2 baby guppies.
Any advice on maintaining my tank. I do regular water changes and a very large oxygen pump. My LFS has also offered to take back any fish I wish or need to return.

  

Anonymous

Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 02:32 pm
I meant I HAVE a very large oxygen supply AND PUMP.
Sorry...thanks.

  

Anonymous

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 02:49 am
holy!...that's quite a tank and combo there..just a bit crowded I believe...noticed any signs of stress in there?..

  

joycedonley

Friday, July 20, 2001 - 07:33 am
You definately have too many fish in your tank. What do you mean by an oxygen pump? A filter is needed to cycle a tank and provide good bacteria to absorb your fish and food waste. If all you have is oxygen from an airstone or such and no filter you will soon have dead fish. I would suggest purchasing a good test kit and testing your tank for ammonia, nitrate, etc. You need to find out very soon if these levels are approaching a critical point.

  

Kick

Saturday, July 21, 2001 - 10:18 am
Whoa! You and Tina must shop at the same place. Instead of retyping things, check out post of Ick on the disease section. You have this tank way overstocked, and if it is new, and you are not very careful, you will soon have a tank full of dead fish.

There is more to keeping fish than just setting up a tank and throwing a bunch of fish in. And I, along with Joyce, are not quite sure of what you are talking about when you say "large oxygen pump". An oxygen supply is needed, but you also need some type of mechanical and biological filtration. If this tank is sparsely planted, you are soon going to see an overabundance of algae as there is too much waste for the plants to handle and the algae will soon appear to take advantage of it.

Check out the main site of Badmans and start reading.....when you have finished there keep looking for more information. There is not enough space here to tell you all you need to know about being successful at this hobby.

I don't mean to be rude or to scare you off the site, but I wish people would think and ask before they "do" not "do" and then start searching for the correct way to do things. The fish deserve more respect than the LPS's are giving them for selling you (and others) so many fish with no guidance whatsoever!!

  

joycedonley

Saturday, July 21, 2001 - 07:13 pm
I just spent half an hour explaining to a novice fish keeper how to help with her sisters 75gal new tank. I showed her a python, told her what fish to not keep, what fish were hardy, not to put bettas in 75 gal tanks with other fish, not to get angels with tiger barbs,to stay away from African mbuna when starting out, to wait until the tank cycles before adding lots of fish etc,etc...this was while the store's fish guy sat on the floor with his mouth open. I think all he did was say so what fish do you want? It's a wonder anyone can start a tank sucessfully following advice from todays LFS stores.

  

Anonymous

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 11:48 am
sorry, i wasnt very clear. i do have a wet/dry filter. what i meant was that i have a powerful air pump attached to it. the filter itself is strong and thorough. one or two of my fish have begun to die (2 guppies and a black widow) and i wonder if it is due to overcrowding. as i said my lfs have offered to take my fish back and so i intend to confront them on the matter. any advice on which fish to return? i think perhaps my mollies are an option. but as an answer to the first reply, no...myfish show no signs of discomfort as of yet, apart from the few deaths.

  

joycedonley

Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 04:58 pm
Your RT shark may look neat but he will probably bully some of your small fish and eat baby guppies. The mollies definately need salt, but the tetra won't like it at all. Neons are very hard to keep and I am suprised if they haven't died in a new uncycled tank.I have no idea what a black widow is??? Anyways either go with tetra or go with the hardwater, salt loving fish like guppies and mollies. Mixing the two is a bad idea.Kick or someone else will have to comment on your loaches, I have never kept them. I also think 4 bristlenose catfish is way to many 2 would be better. They get 5 inches!

  

Anonymous

Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 05:28 am
thanks joyce,

i have returned my shark as he was being a bully with everyone and i think i shall return my mollies. i do have a cycled tank, i probably just have been a bit unclear about explaining this. my fish shop say they will swap my bristle-nosed cat's for littlies when they get too big, and they will also swap my loaches as they get pretty big too. so far my rummynoseds' have been the easiest to care for, along with my neons.

a black widow looks a bit like a bleeding-heart tetra but smaller and it has a clear caudal fin, a jet black anal and dorsal fin and two stripes over each side of its body. it's body itself is kinda silver, and it has a little black eye.
thanks so much for the advice

  

Anonymous

Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 05:32 am
i'm not trying to be rude myself or anything but are u.s. gallons any smaller/larger than u.k. gallons (cos i'm from newton aycliffe, county durham, england). just wondering... thanks so much for your help, i really appreciate you advice.

  

joycedonley

Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:16 am
If you know how to convert in liters there are 3.78 liters in a US gallon. There are 128 fl oz in a US gallon. I cheated and looked on a container of HI C drink!! Yes I think you should return the mollies as they need the salt to stay healthy. At one LFS store here they won't sell mollies unless you will add salt to the water. Tetra don't like salt. I have some African red eyed tetra that cycled my first tank and are now about five years old. Except for neons/cardinals tetra are pretty hardy fish and usually live quite awhile. Livebears (mollies, guppies, swords)don't live as long.

  

Anonymous

Sunday, September 02, 2001 - 11:53 pm
Are there any hardy, pretty fish which can be kept in a setup that has a filter, but don't need the temperature to be regulated painstakingly? I know that goldfish are suitable, but they are so dirty--that is to say they are big poopers.
Thank you.

  

joycedonley

Monday, September 03, 2001 - 11:35 am
White cloud mountain minnows will do fine in a ten gallon tank and prefer cooler water. You should keep them in a small school.

 

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