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Another one of those "weird stuff in my tank" questions

Badmans Tropical Fish Message Center: General message area: Another one of those 'weird stuff in my tank' questions
  

Sierra

Friday, January 18, 2002 - 12:25 am
In my 20 gallon tank (set up 12/1/02 and added 5 zebra danios 13/1/02; sand substrate, Aqua Clear 150 filter; filter floss from established tank added to filter; have no test kits so I cannot tell you pH, kH, gH, ammonia, nitrites, nitrates etc.) there is this milky-white, almost colourless stuff growing on the substrate. Its sort of stringy, slimy, fluffy and kinda ripples and waves in the water current. It looks like algea - but it isn't green. I reached in and got some out but I could hardly feel it in between my fingers. I did a water change and sucked most of it out with the glavel cleaner - it came out quite easily. I'm not particularly worried about it, I'm mainly curious. I was thinking it may be bacteria or fungus feeding on leftover food - some food does sink to the bottom but the danios always pick over the substrate and eat anything they can find. I know that bacterial blooms can cause milky, cloudy water in a new tank - but my water is crystal clear. So what is this stuff?

  

joycedonley

Friday, January 18, 2002 - 07:27 am
My guess is some type of bacteria, maybe someone else knows exactly what kind?? Hope I never see it in my tanks.

  

That_Candian_Guy

Friday, January 18, 2002 - 01:09 pm
yup, bacteria. I usually got this in MY TANK during or before ich. I believe it is decomposing food.

  

Sierra

Friday, January 18, 2002 - 05:10 pm
Thanks for the responses. I thought it was bacteria, but I still don't see how it could be feeding on leftover food. Seriously, is there ever any leftover food when you've got danios in the tank? I really don't think I feed them too much but I will cut back and see what happens. I will also keep siphoning out the bacteria. Canadian Guy - I reckon the bacteria in your tank may have been a sign of deteriorating water quality which then weakened the fish and caused an ich outbreak. Maybe the bacteria is like an early warning. That's just my theory and I really hope it doesn't happen to my fish (they seem fine, by the way). Thanks for the warning. And like Joyce said - does anyone know what kind of bacteria it is?

  

joycedonley

Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 07:36 am
Ich lives in most aquarium tanks, the fish fight it off; it's usually only stress or weakened immune systems that bring on an outbreak. I'm sure it's mentioned in the article on Pat's main board and if Pandora pops in she will probably comment.

  

Pandora

Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 11:28 am
Haha, you're psychic, joyce, how did you know? Well, here I am...

I don't think it's ick or bacteria, though, from the description (you won't see either of these, except in cases where the bacteria all die suddenly at once and cause a bacterial bloom). Sounds like a free-living form of fungus that lives on uneaten food. Sierra, I'd cut down on feedings. The rule I usually use in community tanks is I try not to let flake food touch the ground, and feed tablets only once a week or less if I have bottom feeders.

  

Sierra

Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 05:34 pm
Thanks Pandora. I saw that you spoke to Beth and Renee in 'Tank Health and Maintenance' as well. I have cut down on the feedings and have siphoned out all the fuzzy patches and hopefully removed what they were feeding on as well.

So how often should I feed tablets to my loaches and cories then? I give at least half a tablet to them everyday - is that too much? (I chop a tablet in half because they won't eat a whole one.) I get worried that they aren't all getting enough because whenever I put food in there I end up with this writhing mass of loaches over one tiny bit of food! They keep shoving eachother out of the way (this all looks quite funny actually!). If they don't get tablets every day do they just feed of fallen flake food?

  

Pandora

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 11:29 am
LOL, Sierra, maybe you guys should form a fungus support group or something!

Anyway, as per your tablet feeding, it depends on whether they are able to get it all, but I do think that every day feedings can be a little much, depending on how many bottom feeders you have (sounds like a lot!) That can be a problem with bottom feeders; hard to get to them without having the other fish snatch up the food before they get to it, but then you risk overfeeding the tank. I personally think I'd cut it down to every other day. Also, just for the white fungus problem alone, check your ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. And do a thorough cleaning of your tank with gravel cleaning; change maybe a third of the water, making sure you stir up whats under there. The fungus needs something to live on, and there might be a dead fish or piece of food caught somewhere you haven't found yet!

  

Sierra

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 12:49 am
I change about 1/4 of the water twice a week on all my tanks and I do a thorough gravel cleaning each time. I don't want fungus in MY tank! No dead fish either - and don't have enough fish yet to lose track of them and I do a 'fish count' everyday just to make sure everyone's still there!
The loaches are in their own tank at the moment so I might give them 1/2 tablet at night when they are most active. I might cut back to every 2nd day when they are in the main tank.

 

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