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Torn fin

Badmans Tropical Fish Message Center: General message area: Torn fin
  

Jennifer

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 11:38 am
Our fancy goldfish has ripped her fin where the side is in dented in her tail fin all the way to the base of her tail should we treat her with something?

  

Nancy

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 02:46 pm
One of my bumble bee gobies had a really ratty looking tail fin just a few days ago. I put in Stress Coat (it has aloe in it) and it really, really helped a lot. His fin is healing quite nicely.

  

joycedonley

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 04:51 pm
Salt is good for healing fins, but I really can't advise you with goldfish. If they can tolerate salt that or maybe the stress coat may help some. As long as you have good water parameters and infections don't set in chances are the fin will just heal anyways.

  

jennifer

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 11:30 pm
I got some tetracyclen (sp??) and added it to be sure. I have seen some bad fin rips but this takes the cake. Our other fish who is now in fishy jail (the 10 gallon) was bitting here fins constantly until they riped in many places.

  

Pandora

Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 09:50 pm
Jennifer, have you ever tried Melafix for torn fins? It's an herbal antibiotic often used to treat fin rot and torn fins, and it works pretty well for me. It does not throw off your cycling as much as some antibiotics do (usually reserve stronger antibiotics for serious internal infections).

I have tried salt with goldfish in the past for fin problems with success, but this is a somewhat controversial topic with fishkeepers & FW fish... so I won't go there =)

  

jeff s

Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 11:47 am
pandora and jen..just a note regarding melafix..it's 1%(melaleuca) basically tea tree oil..it supposed to have anti-bacterial properties in it but research has pointed out it has none of these properties..however it does help and speed healing..it's good for small wounds that are limited to the fins,body and mouth without any septic or systemic signs present..small wounds,breeding abrasions and almost healed ulcers it may help out..also as pandora you ponted out it has no effect on your filter or ph..so jen you can decide if it will work for you...I just thought I would through my thoughts out there no disrespect intended...

  

Jennifer

Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 01:21 pm
Ok since You are all so great, and I trust you all, here is a second unrelated problem. I went home this weekend and discovered my one fish had blood streaks on her tail. I believe it was a secondary infection due to paracites since 1) my fish spend part of the year in a pond and 2)my orange fish had dime size white spots. I did not realize this earlier since they live in a 75 g black stock tank in my basement. Also the other three fish are mainly white to start with. The pet store actually had a good person there so my mother got copper safe. (i think) We would move them to a smaller tank, but they are almost a foot long. Does this sound like a good treatment?

  

jeff s

Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 06:04 pm
jenn..are we talkin goldfish and koi here or what?..you said pond..so that's what I am thinkin..and are these white spots big?..kinda waxy blobs or what?..need a little more help here..to get you on the right track..OK

  

cherymclarty

Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 11:25 pm
I've just started trying to keep a nice 30 gal. aquarium for the first time ever. I bought two red capped goldfish. I just loved watching them grow. I think I fed them too much as one looked right at me and died. I was just sick! Now the other one has gotten stuck in a conch shell and I had to shake him out of it. His tail looks red and he swims upside down, and pretty much lives like that. I don't know what to do to help him get better and right side up. The smaller gold fish are always picking at him but he's holding his own so far. Can anyone tell me how to fix him up?
Chery

  

joycedonley

Friday, January 25, 2002 - 07:57 am
It sounds like swim bladder and you should treat with Maracyn. Your fish will never stay healthy though if he is continually being picked on. You will need to find a solution to the problem or the stress will make him susceptible to illness.

  

Jennifer

Friday, January 25, 2002 - 11:01 am
Jeff s mine are big old goldfish that in the 7 years we have had them have never really had a major problem. After talking to the pet store my mother and the new woman who works ( she actually knows her stuff, she'll be gone in a week) They think that the blood streeks (septicemia) was more than likely a secondary infection to paracites. She recomended copper safe (I believe for the paracites) and tetrecyclin ( for the septicemia which is a bacterial infection) Do these meds work ok if you are treating for two things at once?

  

Jennifer

Friday, January 25, 2002 - 11:12 am
Cherymclarty- Try to get him out of the tank and if he ever stays upright for a bit feed him some peas, I helped the ladys at the local pet store fix a fish in there tank last week. If the swimm bladder condition is not too bad try to the peas will some how help. buy canned peas and take the skin off of then. If you have an extra tank or some thing to put him in (like a large storeage thing form walmart) Make sure it is not too deep so that he is able to eat. the reason I said to take him out is that he will not be able to get food if he has competion. If worst comes to worst there is a lady on a site called the goldfish net that has done surgery on fish that will not stay upright. her name is deb and the site is http://pub92.ezboard.com/fthegoldfishnetfrm1
I think she might be able to help if he will not stay upright.

  

jennifer

Friday, January 25, 2002 - 01:58 pm
Mother tryed the copper safe and is seeing dead worm type thing floating in the tank.

  

Pandora

Saturday, January 26, 2002 - 10:58 am
Jeff, thanks for the info! I knew what Melafix was made of but did not know how it actually worked.

Jen--copper safe will kill inverts. I can't tell you exactly what that "dead worm type thing" was, but a few suggestions are that it was a parasitic worm, a nonparasitic free-living worm called a planara, or a leech.

  

cherymclarty

Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 09:08 pm
Jennifer,
Thanks for the information. It never occurred to me that his problem was anything more than being stuck in the conch shell over nite and hurting his tail. I've put him in a large jar, half filled with his tank water. I'll try the peas and hope that he rights himself soon.
Thanks again.
CheryMcLarty

 

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