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Monday, February 04, 2002 - 02:43 am
One of my tanks has ich (white spot). I am treating the fish and I think they will be OK. But I have a few questions about treatment. I know that you must take the carbon out of your filter when you are treating a tank otherwise the carbon will absorb the treament and render it useless. But what about zeolite (ammonia absorber) - disease treatments can damage the biological filter and so it might not be able to cope with the waste that the fish produce; so I figured it would be good to put some zeolite in the filter so that the fish don't get ammonia poisoning. But will the zeolite absorb the treament as well?

On the medication bottle it says to treat the tank and them repeat the treatment after three days - is this enough? It doesn't say what to do next. Should I just treat the tank every three days until I am sure the disease is gone?

On another note - I think I have figured out how the ich got into my tank. I went to the petshop where I got my blue gourami from last week and I looked in the tank were the gourami came from and most of the fish looked a bit 'down' and several of the fish had small white spots on them. One of the other gouramis looked like someone had rolled in in salt! And there were clown loaches in the tank - they will catch it for sure. I am really mad at them for being such a bad petshop. I know I should have known better than to buy fish from them (and I didn't quarantine the gourami either). I don't think the shop idiots even realised the fish were sick and I will tell them tomorrow if they havn't done something about it. Sometimes I wonder if they actually look at their fish or if they just chuck some food in every know and then.

Anyway . . . I'll get off my soapbox now. Thanx in advance for the replies.



Monday, February 04, 2002 - 07:42 am
Usually best if you can take the temperature up to around 80 degrees so the cycts hatch faster. I never use chemicals in my filter and can't guarantee your ammonia treatment won't absorb it. Best bet if you are worried is actually to run an airstone off a pump to increase oxygen levels. Sometimes the meds will actually deplete the oxygen and higher temps may also cause the problem. I treated for 5 days with my ich med and had a reoccurence and had to treat again. I think you should follow instructions on the med and make sure it's gone before you add any new fish. New fish will be more susceptible. PS I don't think it will be gone in three days usually takes pretty close to a week.



Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 12:24 am
Hi Sierra... I have an article I wrote in badman's submitted articles section, have you seen it? It has some info on ich's life cycle, which might be more useful to help you understand what's going on with your tank, and some treatment suggestions. In particular, I and a few others do not believe that QuickCure should only be used for 3 days, although it is an effective medication in general. This is because medication can only attack the free-swimming forms of ich, not the cyst forms that stay in the gravel (that's why joyce advised for you to raise temperature, in order to speed up this cycle). 3 days only will not ensure that this disease won't recurr and reinfect your fish a second time.

I am with you on that bad LFS... I wouldn't shop there anymore. If those are the fish that survived, just think of how many they must go through that aren't so "lucky".



Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 08:51 pm
I haven't seen your article yet Pandora, but I did know about the ich lifecycle. That's why I didn't think that three days would be long enough to get rid of it. I'll treat every three days for about 10 days and hopefully that will take care of it. I'm not really sure about raising the temp. anymore though. I read that at temps. between 70 and 75 the lifecycle is only 3 days as it is. My tank is at 77* and so the cycle would be about two days and thus give the meds more of a chance to attack the parasite in the free swimming stage. I don't intend to try and kill the parasite with high temps. Plus I have had problems with aggression in that tank and the higher temps. might make the fish even more aggressive than they already are. I have added airstones to the tank. I've also added salt to the water.



Saturday, February 09, 2002 - 05:12 pm
That sounds fine so far, Sierra. Actually, high temperatures in a range that fish will tolerate won't kill off the parasite anyway... by the time you raise them to high enough temp's where the parasite dies off, your fish would be dropping like flies =) Good luck to you, and hope that there's no relapse...


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