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Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 03:56 am
I think my kribs are trying to mate, but they just can't seem to get it right. At first the male was chasing after the female, but she would just swim away and hide. After about a week of chasing her I thought that he gave up, but one day I saw the female swimming right next to him so I continued to watch them closely. The male found a suitable rock structure which was previously occupied by my Rams, chased them away and began to build his nest. Lately he started chasing the female while they both twitched and convulsed and showed off their stomachs to each other. Today he finally led her into the cave in which she twisted and turned but then swam away. She did this several times without laying eggs. So I was wondering is this normal? This has been going on for about two weeks and I was hoping that they would spawn in a day or two, but this is taking longer than I thought. Could it be that something isn't right? They were a recent addition to my tank (I've never kept kribs before), so I'm not sure if that is how they're supposed to act.



Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 09:29 am
Well, it certainly does sound like a mating ritual to me, but since I don't keep kribs, I am not much help. Keep checking back as there may be some krib keepers on the board that can better help you. Good luck if this is the case and keep us posted on what happens.



Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 11:02 am
I've never kept Kribs either..but would love to hear additional info as I may one day add them to my planted tank. Maybe your female is not mature enough to lay eggs yet???



Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 05:14 am
Update: My kribs successfully mated. I discovered the eggs on the ceiling of their cave, when I was just beginning to give up hope. I noticed that they were acting kind of strange; one was sitting in the cave and chased the other away when it tried to come in. The latter would try to chase other tank inhabitants away when they would come near. Their behaviour is actually quite amusing to observe. The only thing I'm confused about now is which one is which. what I mean by this is that not I'm not quite sure which is the male and which is the female. Based on the descriptions I've read, the male is supposed to be larger than the female, have a diamond shaped caudal fin as opposed to a more round one, and on it he is supposed to have dark spots which are called ocelli(I think). However the problem is that it also says that the female is supposed to be protecting the eggs and the male is supposed to guard the surrounding area but as it turns out it's quite the opposite. So now i'm not really sure which one is which.



Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 05:24 am
If you're thinking of adding Kribs I would highly recommend it. The are a lot of fun to watch especially their courtship and parental behaivior. Although a lot of people say they've had problems with their bad behavior, I have not experienced any problems with them. They are quite respectful of their tank mates, even when they are trying to protect their territory. I have a pair a Bolivian Rams which are also trying to mate, and have established a territory near by. So when ever one gets into the others' territory they simply chase them back to theirs.



Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 08:24 am
Thanks A for the info. I have thought a lot about what to eventually put in my planted tank in future years. I need a switch from angels and krib sounded kind of neat. I had some thoughts on fancy guppy, but haven't really decided which way to eventually go. The only fish I ever seemed to have breed were platy! My African rift Lake are supposed to breed a lot, but mine sure just like to swim merrily along and nobody is showing any interest in each other. Let us know how the fry raising goes.



Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 11:37 pm
In most cases, it takes fish (particularly cichlids) a few tries to get it "right." Generally it takes most cichlids (or at least most of the ones I've kept) two to four spawns to really learn how to effectively spawn, care for the eggs, and finally care for the young.

I'm not saying it will happen, but don't be completely surprised if the eggs only last for a day or two before the parents or someone else eats them. With each spawning, the parents will learn more, and before long, you'll be begging people to take some of your kribs.

One of the first cichlids that spawned for me were firemouths (also one of the easiest). The first few spawns didn't go well, but not too much later, I had a swarm of firemouth fry...its a pretty cool sight if you've never actually seen it in person before.



Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 11:48 pm
Actually, it turns out you are quite right. Its beeen several days and I dont see any babies, so I'm assuming that someone ate the eggs. I was upset at first, but then I figured that they are probably going to mate again. When my rams mated for the first time all of the eggs were snatched by neon tetras, but now they are mating for the 3rd time, and i'm hoping that they will get it right this time. The kribs also look kind of busy so im hoping they will lay eggs soon too.



Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 11:56 pm
G, you said that you've kept firemouths before. How do you tell the difference between males and females. I have 2 firemouths in my other tank but I can't seem to tell the sexes apart. I've looked at the anal and dorsal fins and they look the same to me (thats how I was told to do it). Do you know any other way of sexing them?



Friday, March 08, 2002 - 10:48 pm
The female Krib is the one in the cave and the male will be the one chasing the other tank mates away from the cave. Once the fry have hatched the male will be the one with the fry and will chase the female like it's no ones business. She will turn a very dark color (almost black) from the stress of the male chasing her. You may want to put a partition in the tank. Female on one side and the male on the other. Try to keep the female on the side with the cave. This will help curb trouble later on when you take the partition down. BTW it's real hard to see the fry when they are first hatched. They are real tiny, almost see through with little (I mean little) black spots on them. Hope this helps. Rose


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