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Michael

Monday, March 11, 2002 - 03:13 pm
I have a cycled 29-gallon long tank, with 32 fish... 9 Mollies, 1 Betta, 6 Dianos, 2 Pleco, 4 Coys, 1 Painted Skirt, 7 Tetras and 3 Rosie Barbs. The pH is 7.5, with ammonia at zero. My question is, I got my Plecos when I had algea in the tank, when It was all gone I started to add 1 algea tab every 3 days but they dont seem to be eating it, the other fish get to it before they have a chance to. My other questions are 3 of my Mollies are about to have babbies, I moved them to a 10 gallon cycled QT tank but when I moved them one of them looks like she's about to die, She swims in circles and on her side, Whats wrong? My other question, is my tank over stocked ? I have about 6 small rocks and 5 fake and 1 real plants. I belive I'm overstocked but I'm not sure. Thanks ahead of time.

  

G

Monday, March 11, 2002 - 08:48 pm
Try feeding your plecos right after you turn out the lights for the night. Plecos are nocturnal fish, so adding the discs after the lights have been turned out a minute or two should give the plecos more of a chance of finding their meal.

I couldn't tell you exactly what is wrong with your molly, but if the fish is bloated, it doesn't necessarily mean she's pregnant. Sometimes a fat fish can mean a sick fish. If the fish isn't actually pregnant, the most likely causes are either parasitic or bacterial infections. Bacterial infections are fast-acting, so if its been a while, maybe its a parasitic infection. Look down at the molly from the top, if her scales are standing out, and she looks like a pinecone, then you have a sick fish.

Sounds like some sort of swimbladder trouble, so try reading up on swim bladder problems...I believe there's a section somewhere on the site dealing with this issue.

  

Michael

Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 07:01 am
I looked at the fish from above and the scales are normal theres no parasites on her that I see. I look on the web for swimbladder and what they describe doesn't match what my molly has. Oh, by the way I've had these fish for a few months and just this morning one of them died from being trapped between one of my fake plants. Is that normal ?

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 10:44 am
Michael sometimes moving pregnant fish can cause problems. Swimbladder per my book is a loss of balance and fish swimming on it's side. It can be cause by the swim bladder being damaged due to breeding or poor handling.It may not be anything you have really done, but the fish being weaker from breeding in conjuction with the stress of moving may have been too much. You could try an antibiotic, but my book really states that after 7 days of no improvement to consider euthanasia. If the fish was too weak to free itself from a fake plant I think there may have been some additonal problems. BTW be sure to add salt to the mollie tank or they will be pr

  

G

Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:43 am
A lot of the time, fish that die seem to find very odd and unique ways of hiding themselves or placing themselves in places you wouldn'th think fish would fit (like under a rock...I can't say how many times when pulling dead at work that I've found dead fish under a solid rock).

Like Joyce said, if the fish was too weak to get out of the plants, there was something wrong before that...it was probably on its way out, and decided to hide or rest in the plants, which is where the fish stayed.

  

Michael

Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:04 pm
Its a tight fitting plant it was near the base where the plasic parts are close to gether where the fish died, and the molly that was swimming on its side, is ok now, I got home and it was doing fine... I add 1 tablespoon of salt for every 5 gallons and my mollies and other fish seem to love the salt even the catfish and plecos wich I read can be bad for them but I think it was because I slowly added salt. Or maybe there just strong fish.

  

Michael

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 07:13 am
ohh by the way is my tank overstocked ?

  

joycedonley

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 07:34 am
You are really pushing the limit! Other factors need to be taken into account. How long has the tank been set up(determines how much good bacteria is availble to balance things)? What type of filtration are you using(good filtration can also help)? How often and how much water do you change out? Are these all juvies or are there adult fish in your tank? What type of tetra...Large or small? Be careful when you do your water changes and only add salt equivalent to the water you are changing out(ie change 5 gallons of water add salt for only the 5 new gallons). Catfish don't like salt so go a little easy on your quatities. You may not notice anything immediately, but too much salt can burn the catfish.

  

G

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:50 pm
I certainly wouldn't add any more fish.

Chances are you won't have too many problems as long as you keep up with maintenance, but always keep in mind that the more fish you have in a smaller space, the more "fragile" the balance in your tank is.

If you want an excuse to set-up another tank, I'd think you have one, as it wouldn't hurt to move some of the fish out of that 29 at some point.
If it was me, I'd seperate the mollies from the rest of your fish, as they are really the only fish you have that will greatly benefit from the salt...but that's only if you want to set-up another tank. Otherwise, just keep up with maintenance, and everything should be as ok as ok can be.

  

Michael

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 05:37 pm
The tank has been set up for 3 months, I use a 20-40 gallon aqua-tech hang-on-back filter, I change 25%-30% of the water weekly, only the pleco and skirt fish are juvies, I cant remember what kind the tetras are but there around 1.5in and the sign on there tank said they get to 2.5in, I only add salt when I take water, and I use chlor-out per gallon of new water if that helps out any... I think its a close fitting tank but it should be ok?

  

joycedonley

Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:26 am
Just don't go on vacation and skip out on the water changes. Also don't add any fish. If one of the mollies die don't replace it. Mollie and pleco can get fairly large, although it will take your plecos a long time to grow!

  

Michael

Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:16 pm
Yeah, my LFS told me the exact same thing, one of my mollies some how dissapeared I think the others ate her, she jumped out of the tank yesterday and I found her and put her back in but, she was swimming close to the top and not moving much and she didn't eat this morning and when I got home she was gone, if she jumped out again the dog most likly ate her, but I look at it in a good way it make my tank less filled. Thanks Joyce your allways a good help. Oh, Thanks G

  

joycedonley

Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:43 am
Your welcome and good luck!

 

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