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Neon tetra--ich?

Badmans Tropical Fish Message Center: Fish diseases : Neon tetra--ich?
  

Scout

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:34 pm
I have a neon tetra that has white raised, tiny bumps on the end of his tail just before the fin part. I have had the neons since Jan. 3. He seems fine just his color is fading. He doesn't
rub on anything like he itches. No other fish seem to have this. My tank has been up since Dec. 21. Ph--7.8-8.0, .25 nitrites.
If I need to treat him, can I set up my old 10gal. tank by putting water from my 58 gallon and
putting him right in it? I don't want to treat the big tank because I have plants in it. I bought some coppersafe, is this a good product?

  

marie

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:46 pm
Yes, I think you would be ok filling the 10 gal with tankwater and putting him in there, as long as you have a heater and filter for it. I would put him in the 10 gal as soon as possible, just in case whatever he has is contagious. Have you done a search for "neon tetra disease" or looked at "ick" on Badman's? It may not be either of these-just a suggestion on somewhere to start looking. I don't know anything about coppersafe though.

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 07:34 am
Badman's board lists coppersafe(also Maracide) for ich. If you have ich though QTing won't do much good as all your fish will be infested and you need to treat the whole tank. It really doesn't sound like ich, but there is a great pic on the main board in the ich article and I think also under medications. Ich looks like salt on your fishes body! If it's neon tetra disease Pat recommends parasit guard. I never had any luck treating neon tetra disease. I think by the time you notice the syptoms (color fading) the fish is usually pretty far gone.

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 07:40 am
Check out Pandora's pic on ich. Click on articles on the main board and read the what are those white spots article. She has two articles on it out there, but the second one has the pic.

  

Scout

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 11:25 am
It doesn't really look like that picture. These white dots are bigger. He has almost no red color in him anymore. If it is neon tetra disease is it contagious? Should I QT or treat the whole tank?

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 12:24 pm
Normally I don't post other links, but there is a really good article on this site about it and yes QT the fish.
http://freshaquarium.about.com/library/weekly/aa092601a.htm

  

joycedonley

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 12:29 pm
Also if you cannot positively identify the disease according to the article treating with a broad range antibiotic may work. Try one of the meds they suggest and possibly your fish just has a bacterial infection and will recover.

  

Pandora

Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 10:45 pm
Scout, from the description of the red stripe going away, I agree that it is very likely that it is NTD... I also like the article joyce listed and have recommended it in the past. Unfortunately, NTD is incurable and highly contagious... quarantine suspected victims at once, I have lost over 20 neons to NTD in a school of 30 about a year ago. Sometimes they die some pretty awful deaths, also, like getting bloated to the point where their eyes bulge out (a really puffy balloon appearence that is distinguishable from dropsy, where the scales stick out)... so if you are pretty sure it is NTD, you might want to consider euthanasia for those fish after quarantine confirms it.

The bumps are a little more confusing, because these are not associated with NTD. It sounds like you have more than one disease in your tank, possibly ich or lymphocystis, you didn't describe the bumps in much detail. In the future, make sure you quarantine all new fish in order to avoid these kinds of epidemics spreading to your old fish.

 

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